Thursday, July 16, 2009

Heart Stoppers

People buy Protons for many reasons. National pride. Rock bottom prices. Value for money. Whatever the reason, and despite their Fisher-Price build quality, Protons still dominate the Malaysian roadscape. Think of it as the local Volkswagen and you wouldn’t be far off the track.

This Nut, on the other hand, bought Betsy the Gen2 for one reason and one reason alone. Her colour. Quite possibly, the prettiest shade of turquoise known to man.

Fine. So I have the depth of a soup spoon when it comes to pretty things. Bite me.

The promise of reasonable maintenance costs were a secondary concern, but a comforting one nonetheless. At the time at which I plonked down a deposit for the gal, I wasn’t exactly raking in the cash, you must understand. I became taxable only a year prior, and suffice to say that a shopping excursion at Cole Haan or Bvlgari back then would have easily bankrupted me. As such, a pretty set of wheels which wouldn’t cost the earth to upkeep was a very, very good thing to have.

And so far, it has worked out pretty well. Spending two hundred odd Ringgit every three months or so on servicing has gone largely unnoticed. But as they say, all good things do eventually come to an end.

Sent Betsy in for her 80,000km service yesterday. A “major” service, the Proton boys told me when I booked her in.

The last “major” service was at 40,000km, a good two years back. They replaced all sorts of fluids and lubricants on the lil' lady, and the bill came up to a smidgen over RM400.

But with the added mileage, I pretty much expected a somewhat heftier bill. Some parts would most likely be nearing the end of their designed service life after 4 1/2 years on the road, after all. Probably RM600, I thought to myself. RM700 if there's anything seriously wonky. But definitely nothing past this figure, I reckoned. It’s a Proton, after all, and Betsy's been showing no signs of electronic or mechanical gremlins.

But I was SO very wrong.

My jaw dropped and my heart definitely skipped a beat when I was handed this invoice for work done on the gal:

Your eyes do not deceive you. That is NOT a typo. Read em' and weep. It does indeed read:

One Thousand Four Hundred and Forty Seven Ringgit and Sixty Five Cents.

In other words, the cost of not one, not two, but THREE Cole Haan wallets.
Or a DELL Inspiron Mini 10 netbook.
Or heaven forbid, an iPod Touch with enough spare change for a Shuffle.

Holy bajeezus!

And mind you, it wasn't like they found some major automotive cancer growing on Betsy. There were no component failures. Nothing out of the ordinary. Just a routine scheduled parts, fluids and lubricant replacement.

Whoever said that Protons were cheap to upkeep, needs to be dragged out, quartered and shot.

If you happen to own and drive a Gen2 or any Proton equipped with the CAMPRO engine, and you're closing on on that magical 80,000km mark on your odometer, you've been warned. *smirk*

261 comments:

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cc said...

Good God. Did they change the whole engine?

Anonymous said...

Mental note. Sell my Waja Campro before it hits 80000km. Lol :)

RPMnut said...

Don't be silly, CC. Not the WHOLE engine. Just about half. Give or take a bolt or two :) hur hur

Janvier said...

Now if we remember when it's time for Aidan's 40k and 80k, we should be better prepared! If we remember.

savante said...

Holy High Maintenance! Should have just left Betsy there and gone to buy something new :)

Ision said...

sounds like profitering.... Proton making up for any drop in sales due to the Global Financial Comedy by hiking the maintanence costs...

do you have a dept of fair trading to go to in KL?

LB said...

Haiyooooooooooooooooooooo ......
Tot you maintain it every 10k km? No? EEEEEssssssssssssssskkkkkkkk

SC said...

Sounds like a big ripoff..toyota doesn't charge that much I reckon. I'm with Ision on this..

Changing car yet? You can paint any new car you want the shade of turquoise you want for the same amount as that bill!

rdlchic said...

OMG. That's almost half my salary! Ha ha. Why lah so expensive?

rdlchic said...

Luckily I drive an old Satria and my dad still pays for the servicing :) ha ha ha

savante said...

Half your salary?! rdlchic, time to demand a raise!

max said...

Betsy's high maintenance. Kinda like the owner :) lol

rdlchic said...

Junior associates earn pittance lah Savante. I'm someone's Emily :p

J said...

I think if servicing your car starts to cost half of someone else's salary, it's time for a swap :p

Anonymous said...

So only partners are rich? :)

AgentM said...

but it s only a GEN2 !!! even my altis doesnt cost dat mucho..

max said...

Did they change anything major? Timing chain perhaps? Gaskets? Shock absorbers? These things usually cost a bomb to replace.

rdlchic said...

Anon - you'll never see junior associates buying two Cole Haan wallets at once or go crazy in a Bvlgari store, that's for sure. :)ha ha

J said...

What's an Altis?

jane said...

Holy mother! That's a CRAZY price to pay for servicing a PROTON!!!!! :P

roland said...

I never remember paying this much for my Wira's 80k service.....
You sure you didn't get cheated ah, Nut?

RPMnut said...

Anon : Yep. Sell it unless you have RM1500 lying around somewhere :P hur hur

RPMnut said...

Janvier - I'd reckon it'll be even more pricey for Peroduas since the parts are all essentially Daihatsu parts imported from Japan :D

RPMnut said...

SC : You DO NOT repaint brand new cars lah. If you've ever seen how they strip a car to the bare shell to paint all the nook & crannies, you'd shed a tear for the car :P

And a good paint job costs about twice Betsy's bill lah :P

RPMnut said...

Max - the 80k service routine goes a lil something like this:

- Engine oil change
- New oil filter
- New air filter
- Flush transmission fluid & replace
- Replace transmission fluid filter
- Check & replace timing belt, tensioner bearing and oil seal
- Check & replace worn brake pads
- Replace engine rocker cover oil seal

So you can KINDA see why the bill was as much as it was.

RPMnut said...

J : The Altis is what Toyota calls the Corolla over here :P

rdlchic said...

Hahahaha..Nut...you're replying like LB the Swat now :P

asha said...

Aiyo. Damn expensive lah Betsy's service!!!!!!

That's like servicing a continental car!!!!!! My BMW servicing costs less!

max said...

OK. That's quite a few major parts they changed.
The timing belt would've made up most of the cost, I assume.

roland said...

Asha drives a BMW?
JEALOUSSS! :P

J said...

Shouldn't high flying partners of law firms be driving something a little bit fancier than a Proton? ;)

asha said...

No need to jeles jeles lah, Roland. My BMW is almost 20 years old. I inherited it from my dad! :P

It's an old old old 318i and it breaks down every 4 months or so :P hahahahaha

RPMnut said...

That, J, was why I ordered Jean Luc.....
And we ALL know what happened there.

I take that as divine intervention - that I was meant to keep driving Betsy until something better comes along...something blue.

Something wearing a GTi badge on the bootlid :D hur hur

rdlchic said...

Every 4 months? Urmmm...maybe you might want to consider changing mechanics, asha :P haha

jane said...

Are you still looking for a new car, Nut?

Or have you decided to keep Betsy for a while?

Anonymous said...

I think Nut would look damn good in a BMW :D

RPMnut said...

Jane - I'm considering options. Waiting for VW to launch the new Golf before I decide. The other choices I'm considering are the Mazda 6 and the Chevy Cruze. And MAYYYYBE the Camry. But only if I'm desperate.

Joshua said...

Good Morning Malaysia! ;)

I reckon it's time to retire Betsy and get something new. Something covered by a generous warranty. Something like a Range Rover, perhaps :D

rdlchic said...

A CAMRY???

Eeeek...old man's car lah, Nut.

It's as bad as driving a Volvo! :P

RPMnut said...

Josh. The Range Rover retails for a smidgen over ONE MILLION RINGGIT here. I'd rather pay RM1447.65 servicing bills every 40,000km than pay 15k a month to service my car loan :P

asha said...

Which one's the Mazda 6?

RPMnut said...

This is the Mazda6, Asha :

http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/mazda6-02.JPG

rdlchic said...

Ooooh...it's PRETTY! :D
Does it come in blue, though? :D hahahaha

Joshua said...

You're considering the Golf AND the 6/Camry?

But those cars aren't even in the same class. The 6 and Camry are so much bigger!

AgentM said...

get a porsche!!!

asha said...

Wow. That's a nice car! :D
The only Mazda I remember was my dad's 323 :D haha

RPMnut said...

AgentM. Find me a rich sugardaddy and I'll get that Porker :P

And besides, if I'm gonna spend a million Ringgit on a car, I'd really rather have a Range Rover. So much classier ! :D

RPMnut said...

Side note : Liz has a few Range Rovers in and around her palaces in ol' Blighty. If it's good enough for her, it's perfect for me :P hur hur

RPMnut said...

Josh...as odd as it sounds, the Golf, although HALF the size of the 6 and the Camry, costs about 20-30k MORE than the Japs.

max said...

Liz? As in QE II? LOL!

She also has a Bentley. :P

max said...

And if I'm not mistaken, a couple of Rolls Royces and Aston Martins :D

asha said...

Liz - hahahahahahahaha....:D
I was WONDERING which liz you were referring to, Nut :P

Joshua said...

Shouldn't the Golf cost the same as cooking Corollas and Civics?

RPMnut said...

Max. Liz doesn't own Astons. Charles does. :P

And she has no Rollers either. The State Limo is a Bentley. Her private car is a Land Rover Defender 110, and the remainder are Rangies :D

RPMnut said...

Josh : A Corolla (Altis in this part of the world) costs about 120k. The Civic, a little more - 130k.

The Golf, the cheapest being the 1.6GL, sells for 165k. The GTi STARTS at 200k.

savante said...

Why a Rover? I'd always prefer a slim sexy BMW.

savante said...

Really curious what everyone works as. We know what Nut and rdlchic work as... what about the rest?

RPMnut said...

A Range Rover is big, imposing and regal, Savante. Perfect for a Queen :P hur hur

max said...

Why the curiosity, Savante?

Joshua said...

Car prices are CRAZY over there.
Should I even ask how you know what Liz and her kids drive these days?

savante said...

Don't you know that doctors are curious inquiring creatures, Max?

max said...

Wouldn't a State Limousine from Bentley be even better, Nut? :D

max said...

Business Development Manager. Nice to meet you, Doctor :P

Janvier said...

We're a cleaning company supervisor. Hence why we are poor.

AgentM said...

Nut...remember..there was someone in MJH....The one who reminded you too much of your uncle.....whose weekend grocery car is a VW Tuareg...

asha said...

I deal with securities, Savante. Boring job :P

RPMnut said...

That's TOUAREG, AgentM.
And please. I'm not about to even consider someone with fantasies of me in DIAPERS! Ew.

AgentM said...

Savante...u know wat i do...

savante said...

Janvier isn't poor btw. He's a drug pusher.

Janvier said...

What about the bits on your bill you didn't show, Nut? What caused it to go 4 figures?

savante said...

AgentM... I know what you do?

RPMnut said...

Pity they only made one of those, Max. I'd be happy with a Rangie, thank you very much. I'm not demanding. :P hur hur

In Oxford Blue. And Parchment leather interior. Yum :D

savante said...

Maybe the hunky mechanics offered special services, janvier :)

AgentM said...

but he is FILTHY RICH!!!!!!

RPMnut said...

Janvier. The timing belt change itself was RM503. The brake pads were RM390. Those were the most expensive bits.

RPMnut said...

Diapers, AgentM. Diapers, for chrissakes. That's just sick :P

SC said...

Take a guess Savante..
Nut..GOLF!!!

Joshua said...

Diapers? Care to elaborate on that, Nut? :D

AgentM said...

savante...i lecture, i run my own little brand consultancy outfit, i teach rpm, i do triathlons and half iron mans, occasionally trying to fix my bloody sex life ...ha ha ha...

RPMnut said...

Didn't you want a Golf as well, SC?
How did you end up with a Civic?

AgentM said...

NUT - U do realize he can give you ANYTHING you want...after all...is only diapers...and it gets taken off when the action starts anyway...

Joshua said...

Speak to PBB, AgentM. She seems to be having a ROCKING time :P

SC said...

Cos I can't afford a bloody golf!
I still want one..

RPMnut said...

Josh. No. I DO NOT care to elaborate on that matter :P

Janvier said...

Nut, as he is now, in diapers? Ew.

savante said...

So terribly sexy when Nut starts talking about timing belts and such.

RPMnut said...

AgentM. I can buy my own cars, thank you very much. NOTHING is worth donning a diaper for :P

savante said...

Why Nut in diapers? Wouldn't he prefer Nut in spanking black leather?

jane said...

Wow. AgentM. Talk about workaholism! :P

RPMnut said...

What's the price diff between the Golf and the Civic Down Under, SC?

RPMnut said...

AgentM - triathlons and ironman events are NOT JOBS!

They don't go on your CV! :P

RPMnut said...

See, if he had fantasies like THAT, I might consider :P hur hur

AgentM said...

But Nut...i reckon u will look hot in a diaper lol....hahahaha

Anonymous said...

Who is this guy? Potential sugardaddy who likes Nut? :D

RPMnut said...

AgentM. Go down some Martinis. I reckon you need them :P

Janvier said...

AgentM, somehow the idea of Nut in a diaper would mean there's something messy (not in a good way) about to happen, like just having an enema and then wearing the diapers while waiting for results...ew ew ew.

AgentM said...

Nut, i bet u if simmy the racoon asked u to wear a diaper...YOU WOULD IMMEDIATELY DO IT...hahahahahah

savante said...

Oh yeah... an enema. Tell me more, baby!

Joshua said...

What if the diaper was made out of spanking black leather, Nut, would you consider it as a compromise? :D

AgentM said...

Nut ...i had Martinis till 145 am !!!

Anonymous said...

Savante likes enemas?

AgentM said...

hmmm...black leather diaper...i'd make my man wear dat!

Janvier said...

AgentM!!! Martinis till 1.45am! So shiok!

Anonymous said...

you guys realised or not
when the post is about something serious - the rate the comments grows is like watching paint to dry/water dehydrate...

but if its something pink-related - fooooooooolamak eh.........

RPMnut said...

Josh. No. Not even if the damn diaper was studded. :P

savante said...

Black leather diapers, joshua? Wouldn't that be like boxers at the most?

LB said...

Agree with SC - when I used to accompany my ex to Toyota Service Centre on every 10k km service - cost is like ranging from below 100 to 200 (max)........

Rip off - claim from Consumer Tribunal!

savante said...

Do we ever talk about anything that serious, anon? :)

LB said...

rdl : dont bruff ah - 1.4k 1/2 ur salary.... :-P

Nut : make queries why why why - t-pots and throw majot bitch fits...

rdlchic said...

Anon - since when has Life Liberty been serious? :D

It's better than watching E! in here! :P

LB said...

Nut : but then again ah - perhaps u missed a few services, hence this is the accumulated price? Seriously, I thought 1 services their cars @ every 10,000km, right?

Janvier said...

Anon, it's actually how the comment thread goes...diapers aren't everybody's thing :P

Joshua said...

Anon. If you've been on this blog long enough, you'll quickly learn that the conversation ALWAYS turns pink once Nut, Savante & Janvier are on the comments section at the same time :P

savante said...

Great minds think alike, rdlchic! We should go shopping for bags together. Saw a Jack Spade ( in Kate Spade! ) leather piece that I love!

LB said...

rdl : don ever compare me to Queen - he will have me decapitated and you locked in a dungeon!!!

yo....

savante said...

Nut, Savante and Janvier at the same time? Oh yeah threesome baby!

Janvier said...

Nut, miss a few services? The folks at Proton know Betsy and Nut by sight!

LB said...

Nut : i assume u have met MH... ask him for leads OR ask PBB to ask...

RPMnut said...

LB : You've obviously never owned cars before. Protons and most Jap cars are serviced every 5,000km. And Betsy has NEVER EVER EVER missed a service. :P

LB said...

Nut - i know of 1 sugar daddy i can recommend to you - and he is into you too.... he told me so! ;-) - want ah?

rdlchic said...

Savante - if you shop like Nut does, I don't think I'd make a good shopping buddy :P hahaha...I'm POOR, remember? :P

Janvier said...

Well but surely Josh wouldn't you too prefer to see Nut in a leather holdall or a g-string compared to diapers?

Joshua said...

I somehow don't see Nut as a "kept man" sort, LB....:P

savante said...

Don't really shop like Nut does. Have to keep some cash for my piles of books. Though I admit I have a yen for leather shoes.

Sigh. Shoes.

My dream is to have a specially designed leather boot handmade for me.

LB said...

hmmmmmmmmmmm ........ oh ok......... i tot was every 10... sorry your Majesty....... :-*

i love you Nut....

Joshua said...

Janvier. Been there. Done that. Note to self: Never share a room with CC and Nut...:P

savante said...

Why?! I want to be a kept man! Find me a sugar daddy! I am very very very low maintenance. And I love sex on an hourly basis!

savante said...

You were involved in a threesome with CC and Nut, joshua?! Pray tell dammit!

LB said...

Joshua : Nut a kept-man??? Oh please - last thing - just a sugardaddy who only gives $$$ and freedom to the keptee. SD is known as a keptor... correct ka?

Janvier said...

Wasn't cc rich enough to have made Nut a kept man then? :P

LB said...

Savante : SD usually older - hourly basis of se, SD may die of cardiac arrest + might need V for each session... how?

Janvier said...

LB, 'keeper'.

Anonymous said...

Who the heck is SD?

Janvier said...

Josh. How remiss of you not to have recorded that even with your mobile if that was available. We're sure it would come in handy to play on the telly for gay parties... :P

Janvier said...

Sugardaddeh, anon.

RPMnut said...

Josh. *THUMP* *BLUDGEON*

Not like we heard you complaining about that night :P

savante said...

LB, I am a doctor. I am great at resuscitation and I can get viagra at a discount.

asha said...

Hahahahahaha...scandal! Gossip!
Do tell more, Josh! :D

LB said...

AgentM - good lord - u real alchoholic - drinking till 145am???? how many shots of Martinis did u down??

max said...

Don't you already have an SD, Savante? :P

LB said...

Anon : SD = Sugardaddy = Keptor = Bapak gula-gula

savante said...

Josh gets the thump of the day again! I am jealous. Is Nut biased towards Josh because of the past threesome? We should do something about that, Janvier.

Janvier said...

If it was in the blue book somehow we'd think you can swipe them for free already savante!

savante said...

Where would I find an SD, max? And who said I had one? :O

RPMnut said...

Oh.MY.GOD.
MUST.NOT.SAY.ANYTHING.
AGENTM.SWALLOWING.MARTINI.SHOTS.
TOO.BLARDI.EASY!

savante said...

Jes found out clopidogrel is 100 bucks a box! Tempted to sell it already, janvier :P

RPMnut said...

I think he's referring to Charming Calvin, Savante :P

LB said...

Savante : u are???????? Hmmmm. McSavante... I likey ordi .......

Oh as for custom made shoes - apparently it costs RM5k per pair - and u can get it at The Gardens... that what i was told by this SD-friend of mine - the one which i wanted to intro to Nut.....

RPMnut said...

Hey! You have a CC too, Savante! :P hur hur

Janvier said...

Right, savante. But that means we'll have to play the role of cc and you Josh if you are to get thumped on a daily basis on the blog comments.

savante said...

Joshua! Speak about the sex!

Anonymous said...

Tell us more about this SD, LB....:D

Is he old, rich and about to kick the bucket? :D

LB said...

Nut : how else do you "do" a drink? U swallow it right? Then, u inject yours????????

lala hurhur toing toing toing

gucgucigucigucitoingtoingtoingguciguci

savante said...

No worries, I can be Josh. Depending on what position he played back then in the threesome.

And LB, yeah there is a shop at Avenue K that does shoes as well.

Janvier said...

So cheap?!

Joshua said...

We should take that particular conversation private, Savante :D

I'm afraid Nut is quite serious about the thumping :P

savante said...

I love secrets. Now where do I have a clandestine meet with joshua?

jane said...

Wonder what CC has to say about all this? :P

RPMnut said...

Easy. Fly yourself to San Francisco, Savante :P hur hur

savante said...

You see that! I believe that would be signed consent from the Nut, joshua! We don't need privacy after all. Just give little hints.

Like boy meets boy.

Joshua said...

I'll e-mail you all the sordid details :P

savante said...

Ooh. Oh yes. Find me easily on my blog.

LB said...

Janvier : u rich ah? 5k for a pair of shoes.........
i pay 400 for mine also like wanna cry ordi!!!

savante said...

Nut must be frothing at the mouth now.

RPMnut said...

Oi!
@#&*@#*
That was NOT consent. :P

Janvier said...

Savante, Josh, share!

LB said...

Savante : since Nut don wan the SD - i recommend to u want ah?

AgentM : please advise on your downing of Martini shots at 145am. Please don make it a nightly affiar of drinking till so late ah....

asha said...

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...this is like watching the Bold and the Beautiful! :P DRAMA!!!!!

Janvier said...

LB, we were referring to savante's mention on clopidogrel. Generic or original btw savante?

RPMnut said...

Be warned, Savante. This SD has diaper tendencies. hur hur

Janvier said...

We'll have to see if the SD can keep up with savante rather.

asha said...

What's clopidogel?

savante said...

We love sugar daddys. I am nastily kinky. Some fetishes I can deal with, Nut. Especially if he buys me a BMW.

The clopidogrel is original, janvier! We could make a fortune! HAHAHAH.

J said...

If the SD is aged and about to kick the bucket, hooking him up with Savante and his apparent sex drive overload may be a good way to accelerate the inheritance process :P

savante said...

Not to mention I'm chockful with medical goodies. I can do all sorts of things with dying old men.

savante said...

You mean the Clopidogrel is even more expensive, janvier! OOH!

And I thought you meant the shoes were cheap at 5K too!

LB said...

SD only in his 50s and is VERY good shape - Sexual wise - no idea - I din 'do" him.....

RPMnut said...

Like administer Propofol to them, Savante? :P hur hur

Anonymous said...

50?!?!
Can the "goods" still "rise"? :P

savante said...

Propofol reputedly gives some amorous dreams, Nut :)

savante said...

It's only 50, anon. It can rise at 80.

LB said...

Clopidogrel is an oral antiplatelet agent (thienopyridine class) to inhibit blood clots in coronary artery disease, peripheral vascular disease, and cerebrovascular disease. It is marketed by Bristol-Myers Squibb and Sanofi-Aventis under the trade name Plavix, by Sun Pharmaceuticals under the trade name Clopilet, by Ranbaxy Laboratories under the trade name Ceruvin. It works by irreversibly inhibiting a receptor called P2Y12. Adverse effects include hemorrhage.

To those wish to know what these 2 doctors are babbling about.....

LB said...

Propofol is a short-acting intravenous nonbarbiturate sedative agent used for the induction of general anesthesia for adults and children, maintenance of general anesthesia, and sedation in medical contexts, such as intensive care unit (ICU) sedation for intubated, mechanically ventilated adults, and in procedures such as colonoscopy and endoscopy, as well as in dental surgery. Its widespread use as an anesthetic induction agent has largely replaced that of sodium pentothal. Although propofol is not considered an analgesic drug,[1] one study has found a lower incidence of postoperative pain after propofol anesthesia compared to anesthesia with inhalation agents.[2] Propofol is approved for use in more than 50 countries. It is also commonly used in veterinary medicine.

savante said...

And it ain't cheap, LB! Never knew it was that expensive actually!

LB said...

Savante : Propofol is a vetinerian drug - what the hell are you doing with that???????? Hehehehehe....

Please administer it to me - I am a hamster

Janvier said...

Somehow the prospect of getting a sugadaddeh have gotten savante all worked up! We can see the headlines now..."rich old man dies with happy but tired look on his face. Causes unknown."

savante said...

And Michael Jackson supposedly used Propofol to sleep.

LB said...

Sorry - Savante - what ain't cheap? The drugs or the shoes... lost you there.....

savante said...

Continue the article, janvier!

'Weeping heir immediately drives off to the BMW dealership after buying up a piece of land for the building of a memorial mansion.'

savante said...

The drugs ain't cheap, LB!

Anonymous said...

Well, you know what they say...all men are pigs. Hence you use vetenary drugs on them :P

LB said...

Janvier : please don be so mean - am sure Savante is human .... am sure he won't kill his SD - on purpose or by accident. ;-)

savante said...

I like pigs. Simple, sweet and so easy to please.

Joshua said...

And all this started from a blog entry about car servicing....LOL!

LB said...

Savante : sad about MJ ....

savante said...

Since a bunch of lawyers are reading this, I shall say... of course I won't kill the rich old man.

rdlchic said...

Hahaha...don't worry bout me, Savante. I'm only an Emily. I don't sue people. I just help the partners who do :P

Anonymous said...

Another 200+ comments? OMG!

savante said...

We are prolific people, anon.

And I am still curious about the rumoured threesome of CC, Nut and Joshua. What went where!

LB said...

Joshua : thats why i said - if its a serious post - all u need are a few of us to completely turn it around - so in short - the degrees of how this became that - lets review, shall we?

servicing of cars -> pricing -> AgentM getting drunk -> sugar daddy -> pigs

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